{"id":34260,"date":"2025-12-08T11:07:50","date_gmt":"2025-12-08T10:07:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/?post_type=bonnier_exhibition&#038;p=34260"},"modified":"2026-03-07T17:09:08","modified_gmt":"2026-03-07T16:09:08","slug":"interview-with-iris-smeds","status":"publish","type":"bonnier_exhibition","link":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/the-maria-bonnier-dahlin-foundation-grant-recipients-ar\/interview-with-iris-smeds\/","title":{"rendered":"Interview with Iris Smeds"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated-exhibition-header has-global-padding is-content-justification-center is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-45560088 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover alignfull is-light has-custom-content-position is-position-bottom-center\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);min-height:600px;aspect-ratio:unset;\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-theme-6-background-color has-background-dim-20 has-background-dim\"><\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1920\" src=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/DSF6669-2560x1920.jpg\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/DSF6669-2560x1920.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/DSF6669-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/DSF6669-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/DSF6669-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/DSF6669-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/DSF6669-2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/12\/DSF6669-1280x960.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-cover-is-layout-32b3451b wp-block-cover-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignwide has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-3f321cca wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\"><h2 class=\"has-text-align-left has-link-color alignwide wp-elements-0e5945498149ef00bf00d96d96809a75 wp-block-post-title has-text-color has-theme-1-color has-xx-large-font-size\">Interview with Iris Smeds<\/h2>\n\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8661c452 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n    \n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-99f3e915 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n\n<h3 data-start=\"82\" data-end=\"437\">Curator Annie Jensen (AJ) i samtal med Iris Smeds (IS)<\/h3>\r\n<p data-start=\"82\" data-end=\"437\"><strong data-start=\"82\" data-end=\"89\">AJ:<\/strong> <em data-start=\"90\" data-end=\"103\">The Average<\/em> is a multi-part work: a film, a manifesto, and sculptural objects that together examine the human pursuit of averages, the middle, norms, and measurability. In the manifesto you write: \u201cThere is no anxiety anymore when there are exact values.\u201d Tell us what you mean by that, and why the manifesto is an important part of the project.<\/p>\r\n<p data-start=\"439\" data-end=\"977\"><strong data-start=\"439\" data-end=\"446\">IS:<\/strong> I think that today we measure ourselves to a greater extent than before, and the more data we collect, the easier it becomes to sell normality. Measurability goes hand in hand with marketability. The danger of the middle is that it can so easily shift. The manifesto is important because I had many thoughts about averages and measurability before making the film\u2014thoughts that then had to take their own, more surreal path. For me, the manifesto is a way to return to what initiated the project and, in a sense, close the circle.<\/p>\r\n<p data-start=\"979\" data-end=\"1285\"><strong data-start=\"979\" data-end=\"986\">AJ:<\/strong> Separation is a recurring theme in <em data-start=\"1022\" data-end=\"1035\">The Average<\/em>: the centipede splitting in two, the blue sausage cut down the middle, and the TV announcer and writer whose romantic relationship seems to have recently ended. Can you elaborate on why \u201cseparation\u201d and \u201cdivision\u201d are important elements in the work?<\/p>\r\n<p data-start=\"1287\" data-end=\"1751\"><strong data-start=\"1287\" data-end=\"1294\">IS:<\/strong> I find separation and guilt interesting. The sense of betrayal in leaving another person, and the humor in using that as an allegory for the relationship between citizens and society. Thinking of ideas about the welfare state as a love relationship, and as a way of understanding the grief over a welfare system that has been lost. The physical image of something split in two describes quite well how it often feels\u2014like you are, or have been, torn apart.<\/p>\r\n<p data-start=\"1753\" data-end=\"1950\"><strong data-start=\"1753\" data-end=\"1760\">AJ:<\/strong> You work with a wide range of media\u2014performance, text and poetry, film, installation, and sculpture. Tell us about your process and your desire to work across different forms of expression.<\/p>\r\n<p data-start=\"1952\" data-end=\"2355\"><strong data-start=\"1952\" data-end=\"1959\">IS:<\/strong> I love being inside a project for a long time, being present in the process from start to finish. To turn every part into a work: the sketches become sculptures, the set design and script receive the same status as the finished film. I don\u2019t want it to result in only one final product. Above all, I want to be there throughout; I like the feeling of being able to revel in a world you\u2019ve built.<\/p>\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f58ed2a0 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-2-background-color has-background factbox has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-2571061f wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-4-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-af328496e059c1d3a580d1809345b63d is-vertical is-layout-flex wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f313c169 wp-block-group-is-layout-flex\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Utst\u00e4llning<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow wp-block-query-is-layout-flow\"><ul style=\"padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;\" class=\"wp-block-post-template is-layout-flow wp-block-post-template-is-layout-flow\"><li class=\"wp-block-post post-34261 bonnier_exhibition type-bonnier_exhibition status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry\">\n<h2 style=\"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;\" class=\"has-link-color wp-elements-49fed7b908d081cbe1fe2ae95c41301b wp-block-post-title has-medium-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/the-maria-bonnier-dahlin-foundation-grant-recipients-ar\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Maria Bonnier Dahlin Foundation Grant Recipients 2019<\/a><\/h2>\n<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow wp-block-query-is-layout-flow\"><ul class=\"wp-block-post-template is-layout-flow wp-block-post-template-is-layout-flow\"><li class=\"wp-block-post post-34260 bonnier_exhibition type-bonnier_exhibition status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry\">\n<h3 style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500; 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