{"id":18165,"date":"2020-12-15T15:50:40","date_gmt":"2020-12-15T14:50:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/?post_type=bonnier_exhibition&#038;p=18165"},"modified":"2026-03-07T17:09:08","modified_gmt":"2026-03-07T16:09:08","slug":"a-conversation-with-alejandro-cesarco","status":"publish","type":"bonnier_exhibition","link":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/the-work-of-mourning\/a-conversation-with-alejandro-cesarco\/","title":{"rendered":"A conversation with Alejandro Cesarco"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated-exhibition-header has-global-padding is-content-justification-center is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-45560088 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover alignfull is-light has-custom-content-position is-position-bottom-center\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);min-height:600px;aspect-ratio:unset;\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-theme-6-background-color has-background-dim-20 has-background-dim\"><\/span><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-cover-is-layout-32b3451b wp-block-cover-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignwide has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-3f321cca wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\"><h2 class=\"has-text-align-left has-link-color alignwide wp-elements-0fec4ae3d7415e5189f7b0413d731ca6 wp-block-post-title has-text-color has-theme-1-color has-xx-large-font-size\">A conversation with Alejandro Cesarco<\/h2>\n\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8661c452 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n    \n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-43a79ed1 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50)\">\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Artist Alejandro Cesarco (AC) in conversation with curator Theodor Ringborg (TR)<\/p>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-99f3e915 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n\n<p>TR: You\u2019ve said that time and memory are recurring themes in your work. What is it about these subjects that interest you? <\/p>\n<p>AC: Yes, I tend to flirt with the possibilities of memory as both the object and instrument of our desires. My work often puts in relation different methodologies of documenting, describing and accounting for the passage of time and the forms used to recall it. <\/p>\n<p>TR: In the exhibition at Bonniers Konsthall you show the work <em>Present Memory<\/em>, which is an intimate portrait of your father. Could you say something about the background to this piece and how the topics of time and memory interrelate in it? <\/p>\n<p>AC: <em>Present Memory<\/em> is a portrait of my father, shortly after he had been diagnosed with lung cancer. I filmed him in his office, he was a doctor, using a hand-held 16mm camera and later projected what I had filmed onto the same wall and recorded that projection on video. The work documents both a constructed and anticipated memory. The literal and metaphorical projection staged in the work is a rehearsal of fears: an attempt at dealing with a future absence, the process of mourning and remembering, mortality and letting go. <\/p>\n<p>TR: What did the making of this piece mean for how you dealt with your grief? <\/p>\n<p>AC: It was, in a way, an attempt at managing or controlling the feeling of loss by anticipating someone\u2019s absence. The process of mourning, however, of course exceeds any foretelling or rationalization: one can not ever fully prepare for it. Working on this video was also, at its most basic, an excuse to spend time with my dad. To acknowledge and face the moment together and help each other process what was happening.  <\/p>\n<p>TR: The piece is installed in a rather lit space, which gives it a quite particular presence and non-presence. Could you say something about the presentation of the work and the spectral appearance of the portrait? <\/p>\n<p>AC: Yes, that\u2019s exactly it: the work takes on a spectral appearance. As the camera in some way caresses or retraces his body, it reappears as a form of soft-memory. And memories, as with ghosts, haunt because there is an intention or demand in their reappearance.<\/p>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f58ed2a0 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-2-background-color has-background factbox has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-2571061f wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-4-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-ce0f5c6fa25d1c42b556fe6644eb803e is-vertical is-layout-flex wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f313c169 wp-block-group-is-layout-flex\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Utst\u00e4llning<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow wp-block-query-is-layout-flow\"><ul style=\"padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"wp-block-post-template is-layout-flow wp-block-post-template-is-layout-flow\"><li class=\"wp-block-post post-16544 bonnier_exhibition type-bonnier_exhibition status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry\">\n<h2 style=\"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"has-link-color wp-elements-49fed7b908d081cbe1fe2ae95c41301b wp-block-post-title has-medium-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/the-work-of-mourning\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Work of Mourning<\/a><\/h2>\n<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow 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target=\"_self\" >A conversation with Alejandro Cesarco<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":0,"parent":16544,"menu_order":0,"template":"","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_seopress_titles_title":"","_seopress_titles_desc":"","_seopress_robots_index":"","_seopress_robots_follow":"","_seopress_robots_imageindex":"","_seopress_robots_snippet":"","_seopress_robots_primary_cat":"0","_seopress_robots_breadcrumbs":"","_seopress_robots_freeze_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_custom_modified_date":"","_seopress_robots_canonical":"","_seopress_social_fb_title":"","_seopress_social_fb_desc":"","_seopress_social_fb_img":"","_seopress_social_fb_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_fb_img_height":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_title":"","_seopress_social_twitter_desc":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img":"","_seopress_social_twitter_img_attachment_id":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_width":0,"_seopress_social_twitter_img_height":0,"_seopress_redirections_value":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled":"","_seopress_redirections_enabled_regex":"","_seopress_redirections_logged_status":"","_seopress_redirections_param":"","_seopress_redirections_type":0,"_seopress_analysis_target_kw":"","_seopress_news_disabled":"","_seopress_video_disabled":"","_seopress_video":[],"_seopress_pro_schemas_manual":[],"_seopress_pro_rich_snippets_disable_all":"","_seopress_pro_rich_snippets_disable":[],"_seopress_pro_schemas":[],"dc_blocks_simple_meta_v2_settings":[],"dc_blocks_post_thumb_focal_point":[],"dc_blocks_simple_data":[]},"bkh-artists":[],"calendar_event_category":[],"class_list":["post-18165","bonnier_exhibition","type-bonnier_exhibition","status-publish","hentry"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/bonnier_exhibition\/18165","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/bonnier_exhibition"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/bonnier_exhibition"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/bonnier_exhibition\/18165\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":18166,"href":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/bonnier_exhibition\/18165\/revisions\/18166"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/bonnier_exhibition\/16544"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=18165"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"bkh_artist","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/bkh-artists?post=18165"},{"taxonomy":"calendar_event_category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/calendar_event_category?post=18165"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}