{"id":17911,"date":"2020-12-03T16:22:19","date_gmt":"2020-12-03T15:22:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/?post_type=bonnier_exhibition&#038;p=17911"},"modified":"2026-03-07T17:09:08","modified_gmt":"2026-03-07T16:09:08","slug":"a-conversation-with-ida-idaida","status":"publish","type":"bonnier_exhibition","link":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/ida-idaida-and-fathia-mohidin-2\/a-conversation-with-ida-idaida\/","title":{"rendered":"A conversation with Ida Idaida"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated-exhibition-header has-global-padding is-content-justification-center is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-45560088 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover alignfull is-light has-custom-content-position is-position-bottom-center\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);min-height:600px;aspect-ratio:unset;\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-theme-6-background-color has-background-dim-20 has-background-dim\"><\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1440\" src=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Ida-Idaida-beskuren-2560x1440.jpg\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Ida-Idaida-beskuren-2560x1440.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Ida-Idaida-beskuren-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Ida-Idaida-beskuren-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Ida-Idaida-beskuren-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Ida-Idaida-beskuren-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Ida-Idaida-beskuren-2048x1152.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/12\/Ida-Idaida-beskuren-1280x720.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-cover-is-layout-32b3451b wp-block-cover-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignwide has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-3f321cca wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\"><h2 class=\"has-text-align-left has-link-color alignwide wp-elements-0fec4ae3d7415e5189f7b0413d731ca6 wp-block-post-title has-text-color has-theme-1-color has-xx-large-font-size\">A conversation with Ida Idaida<\/h2>\n\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8661c452 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n    \n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-43a79ed1 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50)\">\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Artist Ida Idaida (II) in conversation with curator Annie Jensen (AJ)<\/p>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-99f3e915 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n\n<p>AJ: Tell me about your artistic process, what influences you and your work? <\/p>\n<p>II: It started with myself and mental problems; I have various types of memories, images, thoughts and ideas, which were a lot to handle and it limited me. To utilise this and apply it, work, research and production became a way for me to deal with my contorted thoughts and physical symptoms. I had a power and energy that I had to direct outwards, so not to obliterate myself. Since then, I have worked with handicrafts, images, sculpture, electronics, drawings, sound, spatiality: wrought through everything I could get my hands on, in order to establish inner processes beyond myself. <\/p>\n<p>AJ: You have been awarded the grant, in part, for your installations, a sort of advanced machinery that you create yourself and which seem to exist in some kind of interpersonal state. What is your view about these creations? Are they alive or simply inanimate material? <\/p>\n<p>II: I probably consider them affected material, a link in the chain of cause and effect. The structure is intimately allied with the material; the material bears the structure. For example, a structure that handles flies, living and dead, that structure is nothing without its flies and inside that structure the flies are no longer just flies. In the case where flies carry contagion, I am interested in the contagion, the spread of that contagion (the interpersonal) and the behaviours that are part of transmission (how we affect each other). The material is the means and not an end in itself. And all creatures consist of various components and are driven by their own logic and their world is based upon their abilities. Metaphorically speaking, of course. <\/p>\n<p>AJ: When I saw your work, I was struck at first by its harsh and serious nature and expression. It feels like you approach theworks at your own risk. But alongside the macabre, brutal and uncomfortable, there is also something playful. What can you say about this oscillation between the horrid and the playful in your art? <\/p>\n<p>II: \u201cNothing is comic, everything is tragic; nothing is tragic, everything is comic.\u201d I read that in a book when I was 15. As a quote it has also become a sort of key to a pathetic freedom: an indifference to events. Everybody alive must live; we go on living regardless of the circumstances. In a way, we have to rearrange reality, however horrible, into something bearable and this is done through mental processes. Inventiveness and fantasies: objectively it is comical how we mitigate circumstances and tell ourselves lies. When I have to choose between two awful alternatives, comedy becomes a third hidden path that creates a parallel universe. A little opening, to gasp for air, or rather to create a small dose of self-determination and autonomy. Humour is a way of creating something endurable, something within oneself that cannot be owned by others.<\/p>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f58ed2a0 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-2-background-color has-background factbox has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-2571061f wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-4-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-dec384c2fbf2c74a83b3e5fa1770d438 is-vertical is-layout-flex wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f313c169 wp-block-group-is-layout-flex\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Utst\u00e4llning<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow wp-block-query-is-layout-flow\"><ul style=\"padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"wp-block-post-template is-layout-flow wp-block-post-template-is-layout-flow\"><li class=\"wp-block-post post-17364 bonnier_exhibition type-bonnier_exhibition status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry\">\n<h2 style=\"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"has-link-color wp-elements-49fed7b908d081cbe1fe2ae95c41301b wp-block-post-title has-medium-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/ida-idaida-and-fathia-mohidin-2\/\" target=\"_self\" >The Maria Bonnier Dahlin Foundation Grant Recipients 2020<\/a><\/h2>\n<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n\n<div 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