{"id":16107,"date":"2020-04-17T13:13:11","date_gmt":"2020-04-17T12:13:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/?post_type=bonnier_exhibition&#038;p=16107"},"modified":"2026-03-07T17:09:08","modified_gmt":"2026-03-07T16:09:08","slug":"a-conversation-with-eva-mag","status":"publish","type":"bonnier_exhibition","link":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/eva-mag\/a-conversation-with-eva-mag\/","title":{"rendered":"A conversation with \u00c9va Mag"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated-exhibition-header has-global-padding is-content-justification-center is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-45560088 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover alignfull is-light has-custom-content-position is-position-bottom-center\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);min-height:600px;aspect-ratio:unset;\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-theme-6-background-color has-background-dim-20 has-background-dim\"><\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1733\" height=\"2560\" src=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/C7A6524-1733x2560.jpg\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/C7A6524-scaled.jpg 1733w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/C7A6524-203x300.jpg 203w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/C7A6524-693x1024.jpg 693w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/C7A6524-768x1134.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/C7A6524-1040x1536.jpg 1040w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/C7A6524-1386x2048.jpg 1386w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/04\/C7A6524-867x1280.jpg 867w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1733px) 100vw, 1733px\" \/><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-cover-is-layout-32b3451b wp-block-cover-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignwide has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-3f321cca wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\"><h2 class=\"has-text-align-left has-link-color alignwide wp-elements-0fec4ae3d7415e5189f7b0413d731ca6 wp-block-post-title has-text-color has-theme-1-color has-xx-large-font-size\">A conversation with \u00c9va Mag<\/h2>\n\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8661c452 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n    \n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-99f3e915 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n\n<p>The title of the exhibition is <em>There Is a Plan for This<\/em>. Why did you choose that title and what does it mean?<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9va Mag (\u00c9M): What appeals to me is the emptiness in what is apparently a very convincing promise. And it suits the exhibition, because I have taken on a responsibility, yet I don\u2019t know if I can keep going to the end.<\/p>\n<p>You have been interested in clay for a long time, but in this exhibition you also allow another material to come into play, namely metal. What can you tell us about this?<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9M: I see the objects in this exhibition more as a whole that I am using, not so much as metal specifically. In the exhibition, we see video, bricks, a canoe, a mortuary freezer, cables, pipes, screws, nails, tools and all sorts of things that in a material way complement the clay and textiles. I can tell you that clay, textiles and metal make a fine match. I view the accumulated objects as an expression of the time that has gone into making them. In all these objects, I see centuries of knowledge, innovation, industry, consumption, but above all human physical work. An ongoing and eternal work. The objects in the art hall do have real value, you just have to know how to sort them. My knowledge covers the different categories of the metals, as well as their price per kilo, but wouldn\u2019t everything turn to gold in the right hands? I believe the knowledge you have about a system determines how you find your place in it, and thereafter how you will make your way in the world.<\/p>\n<p>During your exhibition at Bonniers Konsthall, you will be turning the space into a studio or workshop, and you\u2019ll occasionally come here to work. What kind of things are you planning of doing?<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9M: I want to come here and look and feel and select items, and then combine them on my specially made podiums. This will become sculptural work that I can keep, however I cannot keep all the objects. I\u2019m also thinking of sorting out a lot of the stuff that Dad doesn\u2019t want back and take them to the recycling depot. I will sort the various metals using a magnet. That is all I know right now. That\u2019s the extent of the plan. My plan is to trust that it will all work out. Trust that it will reveal itself, how I react, when I\u2019m physically in front of the objects.<br \/>\nYour work often oscillates between the individual and the collective. What can you say about this fluctuation in your art and the interplay of these notions in this space?<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9M: It was important to do all the heavy work with the clay by myself, so that I could learn how I operated. To figure out where my physical limit was and what I could learn from working with clay. I felt good while working so hard and meeting that resistance. But then you also have to learn how to function as a part of society, too. Working with other people involves psychological resistance instead. But now I have collaborated several times with people who are new to me, where we have solved a task together. Even though it involves more risk than working by yourself, it also feels like the reward is exponentially greater.<\/p>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f58ed2a0 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-2-background-color has-background factbox has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-2571061f wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-4-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-5b1277d4e45c44fc7661fc0f8edd2383 is-vertical is-layout-flex wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f313c169 wp-block-group-is-layout-flex\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Utst\u00e4llning<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow wp-block-query-is-layout-flow\"><ul style=\"padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"wp-block-post-template is-layout-flow wp-block-post-template-is-layout-flow\"><li class=\"wp-block-post post-15140 bonnier_exhibition type-bonnier_exhibition status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry\">\n<h2 style=\"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"has-link-color wp-elements-49fed7b908d081cbe1fe2ae95c41301b wp-block-post-title has-medium-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/eva-mag\/\" target=\"_self\" >\u00c9va Mag \/ THERE IS A PLAN FOR THIS<\/a><\/h2>\n<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow wp-block-query-is-layout-flow\"><ul class=\"wp-block-post-template is-layout-flow wp-block-post-template-is-layout-flow\"><li class=\"wp-block-post post-16107 bonnier_exhibition type-bonnier_exhibition status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry\">\n<h3 style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500;padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-small-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/eva-mag\/a-conversation-with-eva-mag\/\" target=\"_self\" >A conversation with \u00c9va Mag<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-16112 bonnier_exhibition type-bonnier_exhibition status-publish hentry\">\n<h3 style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500;padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-small-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/eva-mag\/standing-with-eva-mag\/\" target=\"_self\" >Standing with \u00c9va Mag<\/a><\/h3>\n<\/li><li class=\"wp-block-post post-34297 bonnier_exhibition type-bonnier_exhibition status-publish hentry\">\n<h3 style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:500;padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"wp-block-post-title has-small-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/eva-mag\/eva-mag-film\/\" target=\"_self\" >\u00c9va Mag &#8211; 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