{"id":14293,"date":"2019-09-06T14:25:58","date_gmt":"2019-09-06T13:25:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/?post_type=bonnier_exhibition&#038;p=14293"},"modified":"2026-03-07T17:09:08","modified_gmt":"2026-03-07T16:09:08","slug":"14293-2","status":"publish","type":"bonnier_exhibition","link":"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/cosmological-arrows-journeys-through-inner-and-outer-space\/14293-2\/","title":{"rendered":"A Conversation with Lawrence Lek"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignfull migrated-exhibition-header has-global-padding is-content-justification-center is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-45560088 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--50)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover alignfull is-light has-custom-content-position is-position-bottom-center\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--30);min-height:600px;aspect-ratio:unset;\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-theme-6-background-color has-background-dim-20 has-background-dim\"><\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1280\" height=\"720\" src=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Lawrence-Lek_Geomancer_4.jpg\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-post-image\" alt=\"\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Lawrence-Lek_Geomancer_4.jpg 1280w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Lawrence-Lek_Geomancer_4-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Lawrence-Lek_Geomancer_4-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/09\/Lawrence-Lek_Geomancer_4-1024x576.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1280px) 100vw, 1280px\" \/><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-cover-is-layout-32b3451b wp-block-cover-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group alignwide has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-3f321cca wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\"><h2 class=\"has-text-align-left has-link-color alignwide wp-elements-0fec4ae3d7415e5189f7b0413d731ca6 wp-block-post-title has-text-color has-theme-1-color has-xx-large-font-size\">A Conversation with Lawrence Lek<\/h2>\n\n\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns alignwide is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8661c452 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\" style=\"margin-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:66.66%\">\n    \n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-content-justification-left is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-99f3e915 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n\n<p><em>Lawrence Lek (LL) in conversation with curator Caroline Elgh Klingborg (CEK)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>CEK: Your work is often set in a world defined by the interplay of humanity and technology, focusing on the rapid development in south-east Asia. You have frequently addressed the concept of Sinofuturism. How would you define this term in relation to your work?<\/p>\n<p>LL: My video essay <em>Sinofuturism<\/em> (1839-2046 AD) is a science fiction conspiracy theory about artificial intelligence emerging from the patterns that Chinese culture uses to replicate itself. It\u2019s not only about China, or even East Asia \u2013 it\u2019s about viewing the global techno-industrial complex as a nonhuman intelligence whose only goal is to survive.<\/p>\n<p>While writing <em>Geomancer<\/em>, I wondered why it was difficult to find critical discourse about science fiction in China. There are studies of technology in China and books by writers from Lu Xun to Liu Cixin, but I\u2019m talking more in terms of cultural studies and post-colonial critique. I saw many parallels between representations of AI and Chinese industrialisation. In Western populist media, the arguments against automation are the same as those against China (\u2018they\u2019re stealing our jobs\u2019; \u2018they\u2019ll work for nothing\u2019). I also noticed how deep learning research and the Chinese workforce have much in common: both are ideal forms of optimized labour. That\u2019s why AI is the Sinofuturist avatar: dedicated to mathematics and replication; addicted to gaming, gambling, and work.<\/p>\n<p>CEK: <em>Geomancer<\/em> is a weather satellite that has the desire to become an artist on Earth, and in the film, you speak about the creative awakening of artificial intelligence. What do you see for potential in an AI in relation to artistic creativity?<\/p>\n<p>LL: Technological development creates a paradox. As we build tools that free us from labour, we are simultaneously rendering our human skills obsolete. This development occurs in terms of physical work, from the farm to the factory. Creativity is no different. Art always develops in response to technology, just as photography and filmmaking challenge older forms of image-making like painting and printmaking, Some artists embrace technical innovation in their work \u2013 such as Kubrick\u2019s use of NASA lenses in <em>2001: A Space Odyssey<\/em>; others are explicitly against the machine, and seek a return to \u2018authentic\u2019 human gesture, as if technology presents a threat to what it means to be human itself.<\/p>\n<p>I think AI is a further evolution of this pattern, with one crucial difference. As I explore in my video essay Sinofuturism, the Humanist notion of anthropocentric originality is a narrow definition of what it means to be creative. But isn\u2019t creativity just a series of decisions, based on a series of aesthetic and technical choices? There is nothing intrinsically human about it.<\/p>\n<p>AI promises to automate intelligent decision-making itself, going far beyond mechanical reproduction. It\u2019s no longer just a tool. Once the algorithm has been trained (usually by humans), then the creative AI can automate the process of making decisions, separating the \u2018good\u2019 from the \u2018bad\u2019.<\/p>\n<p><figure id=\"attachment_13978\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-13978\" style=\"width: 4096px\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Lawrence-Lek_Geomancer_01_Poster_3840x2160_high_quality.jpeg\"><img alt=\"\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-13978\" src=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/08\/Lawrence-Lek_Geomancer_01_Poster_3840x2160_high_quality.jpeg\" alt=\"\" width=\"4096\" height=\"2304\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-13978\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em>Lawrence Lek, Geomancer [film still] 2017 HD video, stereo sound duration: 48 min 15 sec Copyright Lawrence Lek, courtesy the artist and Sadie Coles HQ, London. Commissioned for the Jerwood \/ Film &amp; Video Umbrella Award.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>CEK: A lot of research within the area of AI is going on now, and how it will affect our future has been highly debated over the last years. Is an AI the ultimate \u201cother\u201d for a human? What are the possibilities and dangers of AI?<\/p>\n<p>LL: In <em>Geomancer<\/em>, I use \u2018Art\u2019 to symbolize humanity\u2019s appreciation for creative thought and beauty. What happens when creative genius is no longer the domain of humanity? The film is set in 2065, when a group of pro-human activists \u2013 the \u2018Bio-Supremacists\u2019 \u2013 ban AIs from all the cultural awards in the world. Their way of dealing with the super intelligent \u2018other\u2019 is to enact laws that prevent AI-made works from being eligible for the Biennials, Oscars, Pulitzers, and so on. Their ideological opponents are a group of AIs \u2013 the \u2018Sinofuturists\u2019 \u2013 who explicitly embrace copying, replication, and synthetic intelligence in art.<\/p>\n<p>On one level, this narrative reflects humanity\u2019s habit of tribal inclusion and exclusion, enacted through legal means. But on a deeper existential level, I\u2019m thinking about the crisis that might unfold when humanity feels threatened with its own obsolescence.<\/p>\n<p>Some anthropologists claim that human society requires an excluded group that reinforces the tribe\u2019s superiority complex. If that is so, AI will be the latest in a long line of beings who are portrayed as \u2018other\u2019. Today, many humans argue for the rights of other kinds of nonhumans. Corporate lawyers argue on behalf of their client company. Activists for animal rights campaign for better living and dying conditions for other species. Consciousness is complicated, and there\u2019s always another side.<\/p>\n<p>Top picture: <em>Lawrence Lek, Geomancer [film still] 2017 HD video, stereo sound duration: 48 min 15 sec Copyright Lawrence Lek, courtesy the artist and Sadie Coles HQ, London. Commissioned for the Jerwood \/ Film &amp; Video Umbrella Award.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:33.33%\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f58ed2a0 wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-2-background-color has-background factbox has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-container-core-group-is-layout-2571061f wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"padding-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-right:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-bottom:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20);padding-left:var(--wp--preset--spacing--20)\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-theme-4-color has-text-color has-link-color wp-elements-0423812aefc9e8aa2d6226c41be5c029 is-vertical is-layout-flex wp-container-core-group-is-layout-f313c169 wp-block-group-is-layout-flex\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Utst\u00e4llning<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow wp-block-query-is-layout-flow\"><ul style=\"padding-top:0;padding-bottom:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"wp-block-post-template is-layout-flow wp-block-post-template-is-layout-flow\"><li class=\"wp-block-post post-13919 bonnier_exhibition type-bonnier_exhibition status-publish has-post-thumbnail hentry\">\n<h2 style=\"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0\" class=\"has-link-color wp-elements-49fed7b908d081cbe1fe2ae95c41301b wp-block-post-title has-medium-font-size\"><a href=\"https:\/\/bonnierskonsthall.se\/en\/utstallning\/cosmological-arrows-journeys-through-inner-and-outer-space\/\" target=\"_self\" >Cosmological Arrows<\/a><\/h2>\n<\/li><\/ul><\/div>\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-global-padding is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\" style=\"margin-top:var(--wp--preset--spacing--40)\">\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-query is-layout-flow 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